tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7102180555401015665.post4701185304613238250..comments2023-10-24T14:01:11.106+02:00Comments on Jame's Game Guides: Unholy DPS vs Blood DPSJamehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09818852948765501817noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7102180555401015665.post-18999636826563565352009-07-23T23:07:20.873+02:002009-07-23T23:07:20.873+02:00ok
1) blood is AMAZING for surviving.
with runeta...ok <br />1) blood is AMAZING for surviving.<br />with runetap (wich grants you with 10% of your maximum health, an with improved runetap, it increases the healing by 100%) mark of bblood wich heals for for 4% of your maximum health up to 20 times. and blood worns wich fight along with oyu healing yo u as they do DMG.<br />2)yes unholy focuses on an offhand, but, as a deathknight, all of your moves are instant, so theres absolutley no point in focusing on hitting faster, u alrwady hit pretty fast with ALL instant hits (besides rune strike)<br /><br />unholy has NO heals unless u count deathstrike wich all dk's have, and unholy does grant you an extra diseas to heal you more with deathstrike, but, blood is way better for surviving in pvp.<br /><br />would you rather do dps with absolutley no heals ? (obviously besides deathstrike) or do a little less DMG but amazing healing, and if your unholy, to heal, you have to fight to heal, what if you are capturing the flag in WSG without a healer? you would need to take ppl on to heal yourself, unlike blood wich has instant heals.<br /><br />i would much rather prefer blood over unholy<br />(i actualy forgot to bring up death pact wich heals you for 40% of your total health at the scrifice of a ghoul, but over all id much rather prefer doing not much less DMG but with amazing heals over a little more DMG without heals)<br />but i have to admit, i like the thought of an unholy spec'd deathknight, haha.<br /><br /><br />wow this was long lol >.<smashhammerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11654551780011872999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7102180555401015665.post-17913291438830784722009-03-04T17:36:00.000+01:002009-03-04T17:36:00.000+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.passthemichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03110572196866241841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7102180555401015665.post-44164168891825544892008-10-04T22:42:00.000+02:002008-10-04T22:42:00.000+02:00Aye, I'll do some tests tomorrow and make an artic...Aye, I'll do some tests tomorrow and make an article :)Jamehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09818852948765501817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7102180555401015665.post-56092707866751157812008-10-04T12:09:00.000+02:002008-10-04T12:09:00.000+02:00Hey Jame, could you do another blood vs unholy vs ...Hey Jame, could you do another blood vs unholy vs frost dps test if you find the time? With the fix of heartstrike, the buffs to frost and the pretty nasty nerfs to unholy I'd be very interested in the results. Unfortunately I dont have a beta account so I cant test it myself :/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7102180555401015665.post-74275022263597228492008-09-27T09:24:00.000+02:002008-09-27T09:24:00.000+02:00Hehe no problem :)Hehe no problem :)Jamehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09818852948765501817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7102180555401015665.post-37236418594144192592008-09-27T01:02:00.000+02:002008-09-27T01:02:00.000+02:00LoL... no it's my math skills that are off. I mis...LoL... no it's my math skills that are off. I mistakenly assumed you added 106dps to 544dps to get ~654 dps for the Blood spec.<BR/>That's what I get for trying to use them before I've had my coffee in the morning! <BR/><BR/>Sorry for my confusion.Aoganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07155726564343609989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7102180555401015665.post-46742323410623726482008-09-26T19:23:00.000+02:002008-09-26T19:23:00.000+02:00@whyzerDKs have excellent survivability in PvP. Al...@whyzer<BR/><BR/>DKs have excellent survivability in PvP. Also, while soloing, your HP will almost never go below 75%, you can fight non-stop and finish most fights full HP.Jamehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09818852948765501817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7102180555401015665.post-77656381712624299142008-09-26T19:22:00.000+02:002008-09-26T19:22:00.000+02:00@aoganHmm I did the math again and find the same r...@aogan<BR/><BR/>Hmm I did the math again and find the same result.<BR/><BR/>I simply add the damage of each source and then divide everything by 300. (5 minutes = 300s)<BR/><BR/>(162948+12216+15765+5492)/300= 654.73<BR/><BR/>Now, math isn't my forte, is there something I'm missing?Jamehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09818852948765501817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7102180555401015665.post-90251846800405644992008-09-26T19:18:00.000+02:002008-09-26T19:18:00.000+02:00@william wallaceI haven't checked the DPS of frost...@william wallace<BR/><BR/>I haven't checked the DPS of frost recently, but I will as soon as I get some time.Jamehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09818852948765501817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7102180555401015665.post-2573973276183327712008-09-26T19:17:00.000+02:002008-09-26T19:17:00.000+02:00@Wyrmsfire: It's actually not that complicated. Th...@Wyrmsfire: It's actually not that complicated. They removed the whole attachign runes to weapons thing. Now you have 2 blood 2 frost 2 unholy runes, that's it, you can't change them.<BR/><BR/>After that, it's all about finding a dps cycle which utilizes as much of your abilities as possible, knowing that runes take 10 second to refresh. I suggest optimized dps cycles in my guide by the way.<BR/><BR/>Once you get used to a rotation it will feel quite simple. You can practice on a target dummy for 5-10 minute and then you'll have it down)Jamehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09818852948765501817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7102180555401015665.post-26201794417596237862008-09-26T14:17:00.000+02:002008-09-26T14:17:00.000+02:00Great work, as usual Jame! One comment though... ...Great work, as usual Jame! One comment though... I think your dps calculation is flawed in that you are adding Ghoul (and Gargoyle) dps directly to your own to get the final dps count. <BR/>You are over stating the pet dps. Sure, the Ghoul dps is 106 (for Blood spec), but only for 2min of the 5min you are fighting. <BR/><BR/>It seems to me the real dps is:<BR/>Blood<BR/>544.97+(12216/299)[Ghoul]=585.83<BR/><BR/>Unholy<BR/>515.69+(34554/300)[Ghoul]+(21889/300)[Gargoyle]=703.83<BR/><BR/>A significant advantage for Unholy! I'm not sure of the mechanics on the Ghoul summoning, but the Unholy calculation gets a bonus because you summoned him twice in that fight. If Blood can do that too, it should be consistent.Aoganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07155726564343609989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7102180555401015665.post-60058689965618471672008-09-26T12:09:00.000+02:002008-09-26T12:09:00.000+02:00I know frost is behind blood and unholy.But it has...I know frost is behind blood and unholy.<BR/>But it has some nice CC options... even dual wield has potential (if fallen crusader stacks like the regular crusader enchant does)<BR/><BR/>I was wondering if you looked at the DPS of frost... I guess my question is: <BR/><BR/>From a DPS stand point how far is frost behind Unholy and BLood?<BR/><BR/>--BillBillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01577869097191564591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7102180555401015665.post-37272064416213608582008-09-26T10:37:00.000+02:002008-09-26T10:37:00.000+02:00The big downer with DW for tanking is the riposte ...The big downer with DW for tanking is the riposte effect, on hard hitting bosses that either means gimping your survivability for hit rating or risking a whole lot of hurt from parries.<BR/><BR/>You can get by fine in Outland on starting gear, but once you hit Northrend, all that is out before you you're done with the first zone.Dennethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07266872752067384537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7102180555401015665.post-10361205555525795752008-09-26T09:58:00.000+02:002008-09-26T09:58:00.000+02:00Ah was just interested in comparison, i wouldve gu...Ah was just interested in comparison, i wouldve guessed that dw will be a must for tanking, but big 2h is always good in the hands of melee class that can smash with it :D<BR/><BR/>Oh ye i know your guides base around fast pve progressing thru circuits in certain zones, but heres the snag, what if you get interrupted in circuit by cc or constant ganking? is dk viable to deal with classes of equal and maybe few lvls higher if in a pinch? (ie just killed 7 mobs that left you on 50ish % hp and rogue jumped you, hypotetical situation, can you fend him off or even kill him?)Whyzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04076680479228096207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7102180555401015665.post-51683258466218829772008-09-26T09:41:00.000+02:002008-09-26T09:41:00.000+02:00Hey Jame... great work dude. Please, keep it up. B...Hey Jame... great work dude. Please, keep it up. But don't forget to take a break once in a while. Don't want to get burnt out, right?<BR/><BR/>Anyway, as a person who has not been into the beta, I've got a lot of questions. But I wont share them all here.<BR/><BR/>Here's one for you though: How difficult do you think it is going to be to get used to the Death Knight class system? There's a lot of new stuff to take in: Runic Power, Runeforging, assigning runes to your weapon... <BR/><BR/>It sounds really complicated.<BR/><BR/>Thanks again!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7102180555401015665.post-41396270515311206202008-09-26T09:20:00.000+02:002008-09-26T09:20:00.000+02:00Almost didn't replace any of the starting gear unt...Almost didn't replace any of the starting gear until Nagrand. Haven't tested Dual Wield also, simply because I didn't have any decent 1H combo to try it.<BR/><BR/>Also, I don't know about you, but just can't picture a Death Knight dual wielding, it just feels weird. 2Hand weapons look so much cooler on them :pJamehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09818852948765501817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7102180555401015665.post-32210605412831740002008-09-26T08:27:00.000+02:002008-09-26T08:27:00.000+02:00I haven't tested DW yet, but I would assume a mix ...I haven't tested DW yet, but I would assume a mix of Unholy/Blood be good for DW with offhand buff and various autoattack procs.Dennethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07266872752067384537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7102180555401015665.post-30637020934067327402008-09-26T06:04:00.000+02:002008-09-26T06:04:00.000+02:00I just had few questions mainly about gear.First: ...I just had few questions mainly about gear.<BR/><BR/>First: have you tested 2h vs dw if dw is possible with deathknight?<BR/><BR/>Second: Would faster weapon be more reliable for unholy and slower for blood, or it would not matter?<BR/><BR/>Third: have you started replacing starting gear with outland one?Whyzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04076680479228096207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7102180555401015665.post-52292531355497965922008-09-25T22:12:00.000+02:002008-09-25T22:12:00.000+02:00A couple of points on leveling.-You'll never use y...A couple of points on leveling.<BR/><BR/>-You'll never use your cooldowns everytime, and even if you do they will not be used a maximum potential so they're not reliable for mesuring DPS.<BR/><BR/>-Blood HP regen is overkill. On elites unholy works just as good, Bone Armor and Death Strike heal you sufficiently and should you mess up you got quite alot of DPS as a ghoul as you die. Once you get to Northrend neither spec will make you kill elites (90% of the elites anyway, currently done Howling Fjord and Dragonblight and only found two elite quests I could solo).<BR/><BR/>Otherwise I liked the changes in the latest patch. More dmg to us, less to the ghouls (w're not BM hunters afterall). And even without cinderglacier Icy Touch got a manic buff, crits for 1500 atm with 3 diseases (I'm currently 72 and picked up Icy Talons before Unholy Blight).Dennethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07266872752067384537noreply@blogger.com